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The Case of Johnny Berry
📻 Episode #239
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 Jan 05, 2022
About This Episode
On August 10th, 1994, a man and a woman were in a van in West Philadelphia, when two males approached. One blocked the passenger door, while the other shot the man before he could get out of the van. The witness identified 16 year old Johnny Berry from a photo, but rescinded the ID at…
The Case
On August 10th, 1994, a man and a woman were in a van in West Philadelphia, when two males approached. One blocked the passenger door, while the other shot the man before he could get out of the van. The witness identified 16 year old Johnny Berry from a photo, but rescinded the ID at a preliminary hearing. Inexplicably, Johnny was re-arrested and sent back to juvenile detention, where he met Tauheed Lloyd who had admitted to being one of the assailants. When Lloyd refused to clear Johnny's name, they fought. Months later, Lloyd was arrested in an unrelated incident, and his gun matched the murder weapon. Unaware of this evidence, Lloyd thought Johnny had snitched. In turn, he gave false testimony for leniency and out of spite, sending Johnny away for life without parole. Years later, Lloyd's attempted recantation was silenced by threats of perjury and another murder prosecution. It took a slew of Supreme Court rulings on juvenile life sentences and the Philadelphia CIU to right this wrong.
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00:03:47“Speaker 1: mister Jones with a handgun and yelled at him to Speaker 1: get out, but before he could even comply. I don't Speaker 1: forget he was not a young guy, seventy eight years old. Speaker 1: He was shot and killed and then both of the Speaker 1: men fled. And before we dive in to the investigation,”
00:14:25“Speaker 2: to come clean, wanted to clear my name, and so Speaker 2: he did that. He talked about the fact of him Speaker 2: having known me prior to being incarcerated at the juvenile facility. Speaker 2: He talked about his incentives or motive for Lyon, and Speaker 2: he also saw it as a means to receive less time.”
00:24:21“Speaker 1: a compensation statue, you know, and the Innocents Project has Speaker 1: been leading the charge to pass compensation statutes and laws Speaker 1: around the country. I think they're now thirty two or Speaker 1: thirty three states that have them. Even then, they vary Speaker 1: widely and some of them provide very very little no”
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