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The Case of Jason Flom and Kim Kardashian on Julius Jones

📻 Episode #238
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 Dec 29, 2021

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About This Episode

On July 28th, 1999, Julius Jones was playing monopoly with his family and soon to be a sophomore on an academic scholarship at the University of Oklahoma. That night, a man named Paul Howell was shot for his GMC Suburban in the nearby suburb of Edmund, Oklahoma. A few days later, Julius was taken into…

The Case

On July 28th, 1999, Julius Jones was playing monopoly with his family and soon to be a sophomore on an academic scholarship at the University of Oklahoma. That night, a man named Paul Howell was shot for his GMC Suburban in the nearby suburb of Edmund, Oklahoma. A few days later, Julius was taken into police custody even though the eyewitness description should have excluded him as a suspect. 3 witnesses (and counting) have come forward with sworn affidavits claiming that Julius’ former friend and co-defendant Chris Jordan has often taken sole responsibility for Paul Howell’s murder.

Julius’ attorney Dale Baich, his mother and sister, Madeline and Antoinette Jones, as well as special guest Kim Kardashian join Jason Flom to discuss Julius’ case and the race to right this wrong.

Since our initial release, Julius death sentence was commuted to life without parole along with some dire stipulations.

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In Their Own Words — transcript excerpts

Short excerpts from the episode's official published transcript, with timestamps — listen from these moments, or read the full transcript via the podcast's own platforms.

00:05:02
“Speaker 3: set yet that I feel like now is the time Speaker 3: where we all just have to come together and really Speaker 3: make a difference in his life. Speaker 1: What about this particular case, about his case makes you Speaker 1: so passionate and what sticks out to you the most”
00:19:04
“Speaker 1: What was it like seeing your baby going through this trial. Speaker 5: Well, at the beginning, I was very confident because the Speaker 5: attorney that we had, mister Abbot, he was very thorough Speaker 5: and he talked to us and he said, I just Speaker 5: need to get Chris on the stand. Miss Abbot had”
00:32:40
“Speaker 2: But I looked at it as if it was my situation. Speaker 9: I was wont with somebody who has information to go Speaker 9: ahead and do it because this is man life online. Speaker 1: I mean, what can I possibly add to further prove Speaker 1: what we've been all saying all along? Julius Jones is”

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