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The Case of Vanessa Gathers
📻 Episode #560
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 Feb 05, 2026
About This Episode
In 1998, Vanessa Gathers was wrongfully convicted of robbing and beating 71-year-old Michael Shaw to death. There was no physical evidence linking Vanessa to the crime, and her conviction was based on a false confession extracted from her by notorious New York police detective Louis Scarcella, whose tactics led to the wrongful convictions of more…
The Case
In 1998, Vanessa Gathers was wrongfully convicted of robbing and beating 71-year-old Michael Shaw to death. There was no physical evidence linking Vanessa to the crime, and her conviction was based on a false confession extracted from her by notorious New York police detective Louis Scarcella, whose tactics led to the wrongful convictions of more than a dozen people. She is joined by her attorney Lisa Cahill in this episode.
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In Their Own Words — transcript excerpts
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00:05:54“Speaker 4: the history of this country in terms of the damage Speaker 4: that he did to an entire burrow. Really, he wrecked Speaker 4: havoc on so many people, in so many cases, and Speaker 4: a whole system. So how did it come about that Speaker 4: you first encountered detectives, Garcella.”
00:23:14“Speaker 4: Because he was old. So that might have made sense, right, Speaker 5: Not true, and so there was a gotcha for us Speaker 5: as the defense team. That was a great mistake in Speaker 5: the confession, which we could use to prove it was coerced.”
00:40:49“Speaker 6: your head. Now my record is clean, I could state Speaker 6: that I have no record, which makes life a lot Speaker 6: easier for me because people look to a background check. Speaker 7: Is nothing there. Speaker 4: It's nothing there because you never had anything there, because”
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