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The Case of Jason Flom and Kim Kardashian on Julius Jones

📻 Episode #133
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 May 20, 2020

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About This Episode

In the fall of 1998, Julius Jones had the whole world ahead of him. He was a freshman who planned to study engineering and was attending the University of Oklahoma on an academic scholarship. The following summer, just three days after his 19th birthday, Julius was awakened and dragged out of bed, barefoot and shirtless,…

The Case

In the fall of 1998, Julius Jones had the whole world ahead of him. He was a freshman who planned to study engineering and was attending the University of Oklahoma on an academic scholarship. The following summer, just three days after his 19th birthday, Julius was awakened and dragged out of bed, barefoot and shirtless, and taken into police custody as a murder suspect. In 2002, he was convicted of killing a prominent local businessman – this after eyewitness testimony that should have excluded the young man as a suspect, as well as overt racial bias both in the news media and in the jury box.

Julius Jones is facing execution as early as the fall of 2020.

Special guests Kim Kardashian West along with Julius’ current attorney, Dale Baich and his mother and sister, Madeline and Antoinette Jones, join Jason Flom to discuss Julius’ case and the race for the State of Oklahoma to grant him clemency before it’s too late.

https://www.change.org/p/julius-jones-is-innocent-don-t-let-him-be-executed-by-the-state-of-oklahoma

https://www.wrongfulconvictionpodcast.com/with-jason-flom

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In Their Own Words — transcript excerpts

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00:04:10
“Speaker 2: up with him, his coaches, and then to see getting Speaker 2: caught up with the wrong group of people and getting Speaker 2: set up the way he was just really rubbed me Speaker 2: the wrong way. That someone's life, a young kid's life Speaker 2: was just taken away. It always goes back to me”
00:17:33
“Speaker 2: a different level. So that's why I am taking it. Speaker 2: But it infuriates me to hear when cases when there's Speaker 2: ineffective counsel. It just makes me so mad, especially if Speaker 2: it's an appointed attorney, that you think that if you Speaker 2: don't have the money to afford an attorney and so”
00:30:11
“Speaker 2: do believe that the Parole Board is like in favor Speaker 2: of a form. I believe everyone is very compassionate. From Speaker 2: what I've heard, So I just urge everyone please sign Speaker 2: the petition for Julius Jones if you're moved by his story. Speaker 2: I've done it. I believe in him so much. I”

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