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The Case of False Confessions - Tommy Ward Pt. 2
📻 Episode #178
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 Dec 23, 2020
About This Episode
No body, no bones, no motive. Just a decades long nightmare that has not ended.
The Case
No body, no bones, no motive. Just a decades long nightmare that has not ended.
For the final episode of Season 2 Laura Nirider and Steve Drizin take us back to Ada, Oklahoma, for the second half of the story of Tommy Ward and Karl Fontenot. When we left off last week, Tommy and Karl were sitting on death row, after police turned Tommy’s bad dream into a murder confession. This week, we hear about some serious twists in the case, from the discovery of the victim’s body to the revelation of hidden evidence that turned this case upside down.
Laura and Steve update us on everything that’s happened since the 2018 Netflix series, The Innocent Man, told Tommy and Karl’s story. There’s been some very good news for one of them….and a breaking story that brings some hope for the other.
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In Their Own Words — transcript excerpts
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00:02:52“Speaker 2: they interviewed Tommy and Carl. Speaker 1: But based on this one detail in their confessions, Tommy Speaker 1: and Carl were convicted of murder. And remember her bodies Speaker 1: still hadn't been found when they were convicted. Speaker 2: No body, no bones, no motive, nothing but a description”
00:11:38“Speaker 4: on Ronical Convictions got involved, and we've been involved in Speaker 4: it for the ensuing a dozen or thirteen years. Still fighting. Speaker 1: Now here's one thing that fascinated Rob about the case Speaker 1: and about Ada, Oklahoma. Turns out Tommy Ward wasn't the Speaker 1: only innocent man from Ada who was convicted of murder”
00:20:20“Speaker 3: If there's any justice in this world, he'll be out Speaker 3: one of these days. Speaker 1: Fifteen years after author John Grisham started researching this case. Speaker 1: He still speaks with Tommy Ward all the time and Speaker 1: remains a strong advocate for Tommy's freedom.”
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