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The Case of Jason Flom and Barry Scheck with Barry Gibbs
📻 Episode #503
🎙️ Hosted by Jason Flom
📅 Dec 19, 2024
About This Episode
Since releasing the 500th episode of Wrongful Conviction earlier this month, we thought it appropriate to spotlight some episodes from the very first season of Wrongful Conviction.
The Case
Since releasing the 500th episode of Wrongful Conviction earlier this month, we thought it appropriate to spotlight some episodes from the very first season of Wrongful Conviction.
On the afternoon of November 4, 1986, the body of an African-American woman was found lying under a blanket near a busy highway in Brooklyn, NY. She had been strangled to death. A witness told Detective Louis Eppolito that he had been jogging on the day of the crime and had seen a white man and a black woman sitting in a gray car parked by the highway. The man said he then watched the white man walk to the passenger side of the car and pull out a body, lay it on the ground and place a blanket over it. Eppolito learned that Barry Gibbs knew the victim and closed in. Barry was charged and convicted of second-degree murder primarily on the testimony of the jogger who later recanted. Jason Flom, Barry Scheck (Co-Founder of The Innocence Project) and Vanessa Potkin (Director of Special Litigation for The Innocence Project) sit down with Barry Gibbs as he details his unfathomable odyssey.
https://innocenceproject.org/cases/barry-gibbs/
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In Their Own Words — transcript excerpts
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00:05:00“Speaker 1: because otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it right now. Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. She was a gift from God, she Speaker 1: And you married the girl of your dreams. So that's again, Speaker 1: it sounds like an American American dream story up until Speaker 1: it's not. And I want to get into that because”
00:19:28“Speaker 3: you won't even give your hairs, and you're saying that Speaker 3: we can't trust the detective to even take them to Speaker 3: the crime lab and give it a straight up examination. Speaker 3: And it turns out everything he suspects is completely true. Speaker 3: It is a complete frame. The guy is working for”
00:32:38“Speaker 1: we do. So these conviction review units, I believe there's Speaker 1: not twenty four of them around the country, right, Well, Speaker 1: some of them are affected summer. Speaker 3: Not some some are for real and some aren't. But Speaker 3: some are for show, right, some are for show. But”
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